Fasting and intermittent fasting for bodybuilding. First running it coach termers opinion. They're going to come over to Jamie and Akash, who actually do implement fasting and their routines as they prepare for that, their next bodybuilding and fizzy competition. Trevor, your first offense. I don't use it. And the only times I do actually think it does work is for times when you're doing in detox and cleaning your body out. Ah, lot of times from bodybuilding, you know, people eating so many frequent meals all the time, even when their offer on, you know, doing a show or not in a lot of this sits and I got a lot of these things build up toxins in your body. And so if I were to do a fasting, there's still other things I would put in it different fruits and stuff like that. And it's a way to get extra fiber and lots of water and different things that will actually excrete a lot of those toxins out of your body. But other than that, especially the more size you have fasting just in terms of weight loss or anything for that it starts becoming reversal effect. It's good for insulin sensitivity, but there's better ways to go about it for maximal effects, but it you can still implement it. It's just not going to be the best results they could get from some doing something else. Jamie, tell us what their most recent fast you did, whether you lost any muscle and what positive effects you got from your fast, Um, I like fasting. I usually fast, actually every day, usually around eight. I stopped eating, and I don't eat again until eight in the morning. So I'm doing my fasted cardio. I'm completely depleted. And then, if I do like a reef, eat because I am a ki tto dieter. I do every feed. I actually will do a twenty four hour fast after my re feed to cut my body straight back into ketosis to keep on burning fat. I haven't lost any muscle. I also take Austin muscle to help prevent muscle loss, but that's what I'm doing right now. In the future, I might change things, but that's what's working for me right now. Gosh, well, yeah, I mean, I think there's like a lot of misconceptions about fasting, in my opinion, is just another tool in the tool belt, like carb cycling meal frequency. Manipulating those things. There's a you know, a booster insulin sensitivity. And yeah, I can put you back. He tell us is in twenty four hours we do it fast, but I still like to, like, follow the normal macros that you would this follow Taylor to your diets, put it in your eating window. Intermittent fasting. So anywhere from like four hours to eight hours as optimal as far as you're eating time. And then outside of that eating time, you would just fast and on Lee Drinkwater or like, zero calorie drinks. So I'm using that, you know, as a tool to help. You know, booster insulin sensitivity around your workouts, especially for eating time, is after your workout post workout. You get a big insolence bike when you first eat some food and you're depleted. So all that get shuttled to your muscles, your first meal, and I just think it's just really good to utilize. You haven't played with that. I would do my work. Well, you'LL never know until you try it yourself and the problem I do have with it for key tojoin dining is you might lower your blood sugar a little bit by being on it, but your body one has stores your liver for up to three days. So happens is if your blood sugar starts getting low from not eating enough, you have stores in your liver that's going to release this in your blood to keep a constant, steady supply of glucose. And then at the same time it's still Khun Breakdown protein for glucose as it's doing that. So that's the big problem I have with it for Kato die. Oh, you know what? That actually brings me to my next point. Just a touch on what Trevor said. The three days of that you're liberal has stored glycogen that ill use when you're not eating, I find that if you ride those three days out and you let your body fully deplete, you get massive fat loss effects passed that three days. So, Trevor, I don't know if you concur or not, but if you wait till you know, you wait three days and you haven't given your body any substantial amount of glucose. Just maybe, you know, seven hundred to one thousand calories worth you know, pre work out something that will be burned up during a workout and then the following three days later you'LL experience massive fat loss effects because there's no glucose anywhere in the body with the Kyoto diet is usually around day five day, four day five tops. After all that glucose is gonna like, you said. That's when weight drops off very fast and people that do too much carbs, cycling when there are no kiddo that it's not really a ketogenic diet. Eso they're playing with that. But if you get to that point in the zero in your body left, nobody does kick over in that state. It's a lot more extreme. Accost. You've experienced extreme fat loss from fasting for multiple days in a row. No food. Well, you say that a lot of people do it wrong after the fast. They go back to the normal diet and actually gain the fat back because their metabolism slowed down. When you faster metabolism slows down, and then when you eat the same amount of calories again, it's way more calories than your body needs. So how do you prevent that rebound? Yeah, so your body will in again. This is just, you know, from my experience, a little bit of neuroscience. Your body will calibrate for that. You know, there's going to be, of course, with a little bit slow down their metabolism. But if you break her fast with this whole foods and don't do anything over the top and you're just eating like old meal rice chicken, you know, B, I don't care. It's impossible to get fat on oatmeal. I don't care. It just is, You know what I mean? So if you're breaking your fast on those good, good, wholesome whole foods your metabolism we'LL go back to normal and you'LL still get all those fat loss benefits that when when you did that one week of fasting, whatever you lost, you still keep that. So give us an example of what not to eat after a fast Oh, yeah, like so, Anything super process like you go to like a restaurant like cheesecake. In fact, I still work a cheesecake factory, Remember, they have that great chicken moderates like super greasy hole bunch of oil. It'LL just sit in your stomach. It takes forever to break down something like that is not optimal to break her fast. I like to sushi wanted out sushi. Not the fried rolls, the cold ones. Because, you know, it's good, good simple carbohydrates, you know, good, wholesome fish. You know those carbs? Fats? Proteins. Yeah. All right. So what did we learn from this episode about fasting in Ramat fasting? We learned that it's not necessarily the optimal way to cleanse our bodies and for insulin sensitivity or fat loss from building muscle. But it is a tool. It could be effective for some people, something that people should try to see. Other body reacts that you do burn a lot of fat when you fast that you burn less muscle. If you're taking a supplement, the house for reserve muscle like a star, Maura steroid or and then also not to die it terribly after the fast Not eat bad food afterwards because you're going to rebound and gain all the fat right back, which is probably what most people do. All right, be swollen. Stole my friends of freedom. Pioneers of human evolution. Yeah, but some bad checks in with best approaches in my water, and I'm flexing it for else. Fragile ration rice I love I won't. Bot here, fronting with cash is getting moody over when it's on my bed section with him, I watered and I'm flat.